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Jonah Goldberg Dismisses CBO Scoring Of Health Bill As The Work Of "Green Eye Shade Guys With Pocket Protectors"

January 06, 2011 8:00 pm ET

From the January 6 edition of Fox News Channel's Special Report:

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Why Won't The Washington Post Report Deficit Impact Of Health Care Repeal?

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    • Author by epichuntarz (January 06, 2011 8:07 pm ET)
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      I love how the right-wing invokes and defends the CBO when it benefits their arguments, but shuns and attacks it when they don't like its findings.
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      • Author by MidAmericaConstitutionalConservative (January 06, 2011 10:20 pm ET)
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        Here is the "good news" about the CBO:
        It sucks. Equally for both parties. They can only deal with the information provided to them. For example:

        "Hello, My name is 'Bill'. I am here to provide information to you, the CBO, as to how to make delicious breakfast sausage! I have enclosed the entire list of ingredients, and they are:"
        (They will result in the aforementioned delicious breakfast sausage, of course!)

        Sage: 30 grams,finely chopped
        Ginger: 50 grams, peeled and chopped
        Kosher Salt: 40 grams
        Pepper: 6 grams, black or white, freshly ground
        Garlic: 18 grams, minced
        Ice water: 250 ml
        Fat: 450 grams pork, back
        Combine ingredients, blah, blah, blah…


        Now, any of you sausage makers may notice that the most important ingredient is missing.

        But, the CBO can ONLY work with the information it is provided. So, according to this information, it looks like a pretty good recipe, right? So, they score it favorably!!!

        My point being is that the CBO reports are nothing but a result of the info they are provided with. THAT IS ALL. (GARBAGE IN = GARBAGE OUT.)

        This is, by the way, a delicious breakfast sausage recipe. ALL YOU HAVE TO ADD IS 5 POUNDS OF PORK SHOULDER.
        Do any of you get my point? I hope so.
        Steve
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      • Author by the Grey Path (January 06, 2011 10:43 pm ET)
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        Gee Jonah ... Who do you want doing the accounting? Football players?
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    • Author by dogbreath (January 06, 2011 8:09 pm ET)
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      I suppose the CBO is actually right, much like the SCOTUS, when they are scoring things that you agree with. Right, Jonah? Here we go with the attacks on specialists and anyone who might actually have the wherewithall to be able to make a concrete stand on something.
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    • Author by christopher howard (January 06, 2011 8:18 pm ET)
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      Hear that, 'Murcans? Those pointy headed accountant types think they're better at accounting than you!

      Geez. I knew that anti-intellectualism had a deep furrow in rightwing politics, but it's brazenly on display here tonight.
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    • Author by RiffRabbit (January 06, 2011 8:34 pm ET)
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      Says Mr. Macho himself... and if I remember correctly, he sure wanted intellectuals to take him seriously when he wrote Liberal Fascism and had a hissy fit when they didn't.
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    • Author by voltaire (January 06, 2011 8:40 pm ET)
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      Makes perfect sense. Facts have a liberal bias.
      Everyone knows that right-wing ideologues are much more reliable when it comes to scoring a bill than those geeky non-partisan accountant types.

      In all seriousness, why do lying morons like Jonah Goldberg get a forum on TV for their idiocy?
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (January 06, 2011 8:45 pm ET)
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      hahahahahaha, and too big to put on a bumper sticker.
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    • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (January 06, 2011 8:51 pm ET)
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      Wow. You gotta love Golberg's logical argument here:

      "If you take the deficit thing out for a second; no one disputes that it is going to cost a lot more in spending and ..in taxes."

      Sure. Just ignore deficit reduction projections.

      So would he make the same flawed argument to oppose a government funded infrastructure project?

      "If you take the economic stimulus thing out for a second; no one disputes that it is going to cost a lot more in spending and ..in taxes."

      "If you take the job creation thing out for a second; no one disputes that it is going to cost a lot more in spending and ..in taxes."

      Jonah. This is why we hire experts with pocket protectors to crunch numbers instead of partisan prognosticators like you.
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    • Author by pete592 (January 06, 2011 9:40 pm ET)
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      Jonah Goldberg, political hack and flip-flopper: "I believe the CBO is full of honest and serious professionals and their judgments should be given serious weight (even though Congress seems to be getting better at gaming how their proposals are scored). But CBO reports aren't gospel."
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    • Author by rtwmd1230 (January 06, 2011 10:28 pm ET)
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      "Green Eye Shade Guys With Pocket Protectors" says Jonah "Always one of the in-crowd cool kids" Goldberg
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (January 06, 2011 10:47 pm ET)
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      Today most be look in the mirrow,and say what you see day at fox news
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    • Author by skiploader1111 (January 06, 2011 11:51 pm ET)
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      Going to add 30 million people are going on the health care rolls!!!!????

      What the hell is this idiot talking about? Does he even know that those 30 million people are going to get private insurance and not govt insurance? Why? Because the public option does not exist and will not exist!

      There is no FREAKING HEALTH CARE ROLLS to go on let alone ADDED TO THE HEALTHCARE ROLLS!!!!!!

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    • Author by ajzito (January 07, 2011 12:47 am ET)
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      I think we all tend to use the CBO when it suits us, and I can't say I'd stake my life on such projections. I'd rather debate a question like, why wouldn't it be brilliant and morally correct sand the defense establishment a little and let the dust cover some of our health care costs? The origin of "the deficit" is in the eye of the beholder, it seems to me, and bandying about CBO projections just postpones the reckoning over whose priorities will carry the day.
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    • Author by David2012 (January 07, 2011 1:51 am ET)
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      Those green-eye shade guys with pocket protectors tend in my experience to be right about the math.

      I know, although I never had a pocket protector or a slide rule (remember them?) belt holster.

      Nevertheless, I guess I am a spiritual soulmate, albeit on a more micro-level. Glory in nerdiness.

      Jonah Goldberg is another one whose credentials for speaking authoritatively on everything under the sun mystify me. I'll confess to the guilty pleasure of buying the Post, mostly for its sports section, partly in order just to be irritated as I start the day. His musings in that paper invariably accomplish the latter.

      This is a man who has literally never done anything productive. Nothing. Yet he is so...entitled. It is to me amazing.

      Get a real job, Jonah. Accomplish something. Then come back, and I'll be willing to talk.
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    • Author by princeofwheels (January 07, 2011 6:14 am ET)
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      Hey Jonah, those Green Eyeshade Guys with Pocket Protectors work at the IRS also.

      Good Luck Dark-Rimmed Guy with No Real Abilities.
      Those Americans you tried to put down are people. AHOLE
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    • Author by bootspur (January 07, 2011 2:51 pm ET)
         
      RIGHT WING LAW #1

      ALL Reported "facts" viewed within the realm of RIGHTWING orthodoxy are False, when after mentally overlaying an ideological template there is not a match.
      *
      Example; the just published CBO (Congressional Budget Office) report that said, upending Health Care Reform will ADD between $145 to $230 billion dollars to the NATIONAL DEBT over ten years IS FALSE according to Right Wing orthodoxy. Why, because politically these Right Wingers viscerally DISAGREE with mandatory health care as a premise rendering out of hand ALL succeeding reports, facts, numbers, or assertions as patently FALSE.
      *
      (The NUMBER'S are FALSE, if a mandatory health care premise is FALSE, and the premise is FALSE since it does NOT align with the ideological template.)
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